A Canadian's Guide To Buying and Importing A US Boat


Candid advice from experienced Canadians about how to buy and import a used boat from the USA to Canada. It is alot easier than some brokers will make it sound. This article explains exactly how to buy and import a used boat from the US to Canada and save big. There are plenty of blogs on the subject and lots of misinformation. This article explains exactly how to (and in great detail) to buy and import a used boat from the US to Canada and save big on brokerage fees while avoiding the many pitfalls that cost you time and money.

There are many things we all happily pay for and don't bother doing ourselves. That being said, I feel that it is a benefit to all boaters to de-mystify the importing process and allow them to choose whether they want to do this themselves or engage a professional. Seems reasonable enough to me and the thousands who have downloaded my articles in the past years.

Like many boaters, you have been shopping for a good deal on a boat in Canada. With the current weakening of the US dollar (and the spinoff benefit of a strong Canadian dollar), the economic downturn in the US is forcing out many deals as sellers struggle and liquidate... you can almost smell boat fever.

As you paruse the online ads, you can't help but notice the great pricing on boats in the USA. I mean, you can save tens of thousands of dollars or even hundreds of thousands (when shopping mega yachts) when buying the exact same boat that you are looking for in Canada. A trade buddy of mine in Florida has told me that they are repossessing up to 200 boats monthly right now.

As the US economy struggles, panic takes grip amidst the soaring gas prices and the other US economic issues and more and more people are defaulting on their recreational property loans putting more and more boats for sale in an already saturated market.

Now, it was nice to see Canadian dealers finally starting drop their prices to reflect the pricing shift and our dollar's past strengths (or more accurately, the US dollar's weakness) but still, some dealers are still trying to make too much money off a boat they are importing from the US anyway. In all fairness, many dealers adjusted their pricing early on to stay competitive but there are some that waited until the public outcry began before they started "adjusting" their pricing...

So... shop hard, remember what dealers are being fair and realistic (which is a large majority of them) negotiate hard and use the crazy US market to get yourself the best deal possible.

The Latest Trend - Buying A Boat State-Side

"The past few years have seen an explosion in the number of Canadians purchasing used power boats and sail boats from the States. This is helping to keep the American boat industry on life support in one of the bleakest periods in their history.

The primary driver is the tremendous COST SAVINGS that can be realized by purchasing a used boat stateside. The US pre-owned boat market is 100 times larger than the Canadian market, is far more price competitive and offers a much greater selection of used boats. The present economic crisis has driven people to unload their luxury recreational items for less than they owe. With the total dollar savings even after one fully accounts for freight, taxes and exchange rate differentials and other logistics costs typically exceeds 20%.

An example will help to demonstrate. This example applies to either a new or used boat. Consider the Canadian buyer who purchased a boat a few years ago that cost Cdn $140,000. At the time the CAD/US exchange rate was 1.40. All boats manufactured in the North American market are priced in US dollars at the factory. So what our Canadian buyer really paid was USD $100,000.

Today that same boat at the factory costs the same USD $100,000. However the CAD/US exchange rate is now fluctuating around par, or 1.00, so the same boat today can be purchased for Cdn $100,000 or 28% less than the identical boat cost a few years ago. This is a very significant cost savings that should be passed along to the Canadian consumer by the local dealer, but just like in the auto industry, is not being passed along in full, and consumers are recognizing this inequity and bypassing the Canadian market entirely and making their purchases directly in the US market.

The downside to this massive cost realignment is of course for the Canadian buyer who purchased his boat a few years ago when the exchange rate was 1.40. It is a bitter pill to swallow when he finds out a brand new boat can be purchased for less money than his 2 year old used boat, and to add insult to injury, his used boat is worth much less than he thought it would be.

There is a silver lining for buyers who are trading up. The cost savings on the bigger more expensive boat being purchased, will more than offset the exchange losses generated on the smaller boat being sold.

For any Canadian buyer, the biggest challenges are the logistical issues that must be dealt with when importing any used boat into Canada and most importantly the US based title and lien searches, to ensure you have free and clear title to the vessel. There are numerous critical steps that must be taken to ensure the integrity of the transaction." says Brent Leathwood, Certified Professional Yacht Broker

To learn about these... read on...

If you cannot find the boat you want in Canada, you might as well look south. With tax law changes in the USA coming next year, the market will be saturated with boats whose mortgage payments (large boats actually qualified as a second home and were subject to tax breaks!) will no longer be a tax write-off. Ever wonder why so many average Americans have these BIG, EXPENSIVE boats? Many Americans simply won't be able to afford these luxuries anymore once they cannot write-off the mortgage payment and they will either lose them to the bank or be forced to liquidate them in an already saturated market.

Can you spell S-A-V-E B-I-G?

Now... Back to Canada.

Many people will simply pay more for a Canadian boat because they fear the unknown, or have heard that importing a US boat can be difficult and expensive. Unless you are buying a boat with warranty intact, you have nothing to lose by looking south of the border. Even boats that don't qualify for duty-free import are still worth less in the US and the duties are lower than ever.

Do Your Homework

Use the internet to find the make, model and configuration that you like. Use websites like www.yachtworld.com (sites were brokers and dealers list all their inventory and brokerage listings... just like a real estate MLS site) or www.canadaboatshopper.com or any of the countless other sites that show both US and Canadian listings. This will give you hundreds of similar boats and let you see images, configurations and, most importantly, US and Canadian asking prices. It won't take you long to see average asking price (remember these are only ASKING PRICES used to get the negotiations going). They use this site to help explain why they will only give you so much (or so little) for your trade-in... so you might as well use it to show why you should not pay too much for the next boat... It is a great tactic for them and should be equally applied by you.

You want to know exactly which boats you want to actually drive down to see before making numerous treks across the border to view dirty, damaged, or unsuitable vessels.

Was This A Florida Boat?

There are more boats in Florida than in any other place in North America. You need to be clear right away. Ask the seller if this was ever a salt-water boat. This might not be an issue depending on where you are in Canada, but you need to know. Some dishonest dealers (in Canada and the USA) have been bringing nasty, corroded and hurricane-damaged boats up from Florida, buffing them, fixing the hull damage and drying them out and selling them as freshwater boats. Yes, this happens in Canada folks. You need to have a surveyor. Don't use the survey or surveyor 'they' provide to you and get references from the surveyor you choose.

 

The Road Trip

Don't let the cold Canadian winter put you off from your boat searching. More and more boaters pay to keep their boats in heated storage so that prospective buyers can have easy and comfortable access to them all winter long. In addition, many great havens for great US boat deals don't suffer winter like we do. Many times their boats are still in the water year round or there is nothing more than a dusting of snow on them. The winter is a GREAT time to shop. People are keen to get the boat sold, get some money to pay off Christmas bills and will happily accept the hold-back (common on winter sales) until a full inspection and sea trial closes the deal in the early spring.

Make arrangements to go and view the boat(s) you want to see. The conditions are simply:

  1. A Visual Inspection
  2. A Survey
  3. Sea Trial

You can walk away from the deal at any point here. You could simply drive down, look at the boat and after one minute, decide that this is not the 'one for you'.

The Offer To Purchase

Once you are satisfied that the boat looks good, you will want to arrange a survey. The survey might result in findings that require you to re-negotiate the price or have certain deficiencies addressed prior to the deal closing.

Assuming that you are not ready to pull out of the deal after the survey (money well spent), you are ready to get the importing ball rolling.

Importing A Boat By Water

I have had several inquiries lately after some brokers and dealers have been warning southbound buyers that they need to employ a captain to bring their boat over the border by water (and they know just the person or firm).

For most non-commercial boats this is absolutely false if YOU are legally and physically able to operate your prospective vessel in either country, you are good to go. If you are planning to captain your boat back from the US to Canada, you need to make sure that you have a copy of the boat's current registration documents...
[ read more ] ... still to come, the complete 45 page document continues with importing by water, land and with a trailer, government resources, contact numbers and addresses, fillable forms as well as other valuable content.

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STILL NOT CONVINCED YOU CAN DO THIS YOURSELF?

So you bought and read the whole eBook... You understand all the steps and have all the included paperwork and forms, but you are still unsure if you WANT to do this all yourself. No problem. Why not complete our IMPORTING ASSISTANCE REQUEST to reach an importing professional. Tell them you read the eBook and what part(s) of the process you want them to do for you. Simple. Happy Importing!

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Sampling Of Testimonials & Feedback

Thanks for the candid and straight-forward advice! I have an offer in on a deal in New York right now! - Justin Knight, Oshawa

...exactly what I needed to know. I had no idea how easy this process can be if you know what to do. I saved $35,000 plus another $4,000 in broker fees. Thanks! - Angela B - Vancouver BC

Just a quick note thanking you for your article and all the forms and documents! I just got back from Michigan by water with my new boat and everything went exactly as you had laid out. You have an excellent resource that I highly recommend to anyone who wants to shop south of the border... Doug T - Pembroke, ON

...great article. I am ready to do this on my own now. I did call CBSA and Services Canada and confirm your claims and they could not believe how much I knew about the process. Some of your details were more up-to-date than their supervisor's! Thanks for the step-by-step and accurate advice. B. Grosvenor - Halifax NS.

Best ten bucks I have spent this year! I read one thing on one website and the opposite on another. Your article is a good read and I checked it out, people, it is right. I am off to Jersey right now to see a boat I have under offer, thanks to your advice. I will let you know how it all goes. Trevor Shaw - Toronto ON.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFO. Boats are cheaper in USA!!! I had abandoned the
search until I found this info. Thank you very much Bernard Laporte

Thanks for all the advice, I sold my boat in only four weeks on www.canadaboatshopper.com and ...brought a 2001 Silverton back from Ohio yesterday! It was painless since I was prepared for the process... Ed Collins,Victoria BC


Good Info

Good info. I googled quite a bit and found varying opinions and confusing advice. You had some gems that will help me out this spring. Thanks.

J Antoine (not verified) | Mon, 02/09/2009 - 16:23

Thank You

Thank you for this article and your help with a few questions I had. The whole process made sense and my husband and I managed to bring our new sailboat over the border without issues. I can recommend this to anyone considering buying a boat in the United States and bringing it back themselves.

Nancy Morton (not verified) | Wed, 09/10/2008 - 10:04

Well worth the ten bucks...

Hi, I just wanted to comment on the importing article. Thanks for making it all make sense. I followed the steps and completed the forms. I brought my boat back from New York over the Canada Day weekend and had NO issues. The border services folks were surprised that I was so well-prepared. Thanks for making this easy for me. I can whole-heartedly recommend this to anyone looking at buying in the US (where I saved about $6000 on my boat).

Norm Boucher (not verified) | Tue, 07/08/2008 - 00:00

A few comments...

As an experienced international broker and 200 ton licensed captain, I thought I would write about a couple of issues for your consideration. I will preface by saying that I have absolutely no issue with folks who want to import a boat on their own. It really is not very difficult.

Having said that, there are a couple of things to think about.
1. When working on a cross border deal, where is the deposit held? This is the biggest advantage of working with a Canadian broker as the buyer's deposit sits in a Canadian trust account. As an aside to this issue, it is imperative that buyers ask their prospective broker where funds are held. While it is not illegal to work without a trust account for buyers' deposits as is required in used car sales and real estate, it is certainly financially prudent. In a scenario where something goes awry with the survey, mechanical checks or sea trial, the buyer's deposit is much more easily refunded in a timely manner if the money is on this side of the border.

2. When bringing a boat home by water, there are many factors to consider. Most often when I am asked to help bring a customers’ new purchase home, it is because they are not totally comfortable with one aspect or another of the voyage. Reasons include skill level, distances, and time constraints. Quite often I will be on board not merely as a hired captain but to give the new owner a better comfort level in handling what is a larger craft than they have been used to.

3. Caution must be exercised particularly when bringing larger craft home. Lloyds, who does somewhere in the neighborhood of 85 percent of all the pleasurecraft underwriting in North America issued a message to all its insurers just over three years ago. In it they stated that as a result of the number of marine claims related to the helmsman's experience they would no longer be responsible for claims involving pleasurecraft in the United States worth over $250,000 US unless the owner or a licensed captain was at the helm.

4. In general, the use of a professional yacht broker should make the experience a pleasurable one as it should be. The last question a buyer should ask themselves is: Am I comfortable enough handling the negotiation and transaction skills needed to complete the deal. A corollary question is: Would I sell my own home?

Thanks for the chance for input. I applaud the effort to provide excellent knowledge to the boating community.

W.A. (Bill) Stevenson
Certified Professional Yacht Broker
North 44 Marine Sales
1 Guise Street
Hamilton, Ontario
L8L 8B4
Phone: 905-522-7386
Cell: 905-741-5569
Fax: 905-527-8132

Bill Stevenson (not verified) | Mon, 06/09/2008 - 22:43

I just got back from Lake St

I just got back from Lake St Clair with our new express. What a wonderful cruise this past week (other than a little fog and rain). Anyway, thanks for the great advice. All went exactly as planned and there were no import hiccups. Thanks again.

Joan (Collingwood, Ontario)

Joan M (not verified) | Mon, 06/09/2008 - 09:27

Right On The Money

I don't usually fill these things out but I wanted to thank you for all the help. The article and forms were very helpful and I especially appreciated you answering my questions a few weeks later. We just bought our second boat and are sailing back to Victoria. Your advice was exactly right. I will recommend this to my friends back at the marina who are looking to upgrade this summer.

Beverley Jamieson (not verified) | Sun, 06/01/2008 - 13:49

That was easy. Thanks.

Thanks for the informative package. I used the forms you gave me, followed your instructions and knew exactly what to do at the border. A buddy of mine was stuck at customs for 6 hours trying to complete all the forms that I had already done. I was over the border in 10 minutes (never mind the 45 minute line-up just to get to the gate). Thanks again. Good value people.

Jim Lunney (not verified) | Thu, 05/29/2008 - 15:16

Exactly what I needed

I feel like I just saw a 'secrets revealed' show where the magician does the illusion and then shows you how he did it. Your article is long but very detailed and had everything I wanted to know including all the paperwork that I just finished tonight.

I highly recommend this folks. He does not hold anything back and if you are considering doing this yourself, I would want to have this article by your side when you are preparing to close the deal.

Anway, thanks and I like your new site design. I actually found the boat I am buying from your links to boat ads.

Terry H.
Toronto, Ontario

Guest | Fri, 05/09/2008 - 23:42

Thanks!

I just got back from Ohio with a great deal on a 32ft Carver Aft Cabin. The transport company was great. The import went smooth as silk. Thanks for the great package. I had all the forms I needed and was through customs faster than my wife who was following in our van! Have a great summer, I know I will!

Guest | Tue, 04/22/2008 - 00:10

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